mechanics for detached gear (int)

[heyblue26]

Originally Posted by VTponyump

When I first this this clip last season when it happened, I thought that was a big time call...and still do. The ball was still rolling away from the catcher, and he gained an advantage by stopping it with the mask, preventing the runners from advancing.

It also points out the difference between the MLB guys and the rest of us, or at least me. Nelson was all over that the moment it happened. I would think "that didn't look right", and then would be double clicking inside my head trying to bring up what it was and what to do about it. Nelson is a terrific umpire, and a great story in coming back strong after a life threatening medical issue.

Catcher's Balk? On this video? YGBSM. It was a one base award because that is what the pro manual calls for for detached equipment used on a pitched or thrown ball; the 3 base award is at the time of the infraction for a batted ball.

Very well said and your point of view is accepted.

[24sdad]

Originally Posted by VTponyump

It was a one base award because that is what the pro manual calls for for detached equipment used on a pitched or thrown ball; the 3 base award is at the time of the infraction for a batted ball.

I believe "pitched" ball is one base, "thrown" ball is two bases.

7.05 (d) - Two bases, if a fielder deliberately touches a thrown ball with his cap, mask or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person. The ball is in play;

7.05 (j) - One base, if a fielder deliberately touches a pitched ball with his cap, mask or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person. The ball is in play, and the award is made from the position of the runner at the time the ball was touched.

[VTponyump]

Right you are....Like I said, sometimes I double click, and that time it froze up and needed to be rebooted.

[Richard_Siegel]

Originally Posted by jtn93

thats a catchers balk i think, he only awarded one base

The award was one base for DE one a pitched ball.

[catoblue]

Originally Posted by mike_l

From the PBUC Bluebook

6.9 DETACHED EQUIPMENT TOUCHING PITCHED OR BATTED BALL
Any defensive player deliberately touching a pitched ball with detached equipment (such as a catcher's mask, cap, etc.) will entitle all runners to advance one base from the time the ball was touched without liability to be put out. The ball is in play, and runners may advance beyond the awarded base at their own risk.
Any defensive player deliberately touching a batted ball over fair territory with detached equipment will entitle all runners - including the batter-runner -to advance three bases from the time the ball was touched without liability to be put out. The ball is in play, and runners may advance beyond the awarded base at their own risk.
Any defensive player deliberately touching a batted ball over foul territory that, in the umpire's judgment, has an opportunity to become a fair ball with detached equipment will entitle all runners - including the batter-runner - to advance three bases from the time the ball was touched without liability to be put out. The ball is in play, and runners may advance beyond the awarded base at their own risk.
If a defensive player deliberately touches a batted ball over foul territory that, in the umpire's judgment, clearly has no opportunity to become a fair ball, the umpire shall rule a foul ball. (See Official Baseball Rule 7.05(c).)

Saw this last night Yankees v Angels. Posada was awarded 1 base when Angels F2 used his mask to corral a ball in the dirt.

[catoblue]

Originally Posted by jtn93

thats a catchers balk i think, he only awarded one base

You've been listening to Tim McCarver and Joe Buck again, haven't you?
A word of advise for any umpire that wants to know the rules... DO NOT LISTEN TO THE TV GUYS!!!! Very few of them know or understand the rules.

It's detached equipment on a passed ball = 1 base award to the runners.

[renegadewolf]

Originally Posted by catoblue

You've been listening to Tim McCarver and Joe Buck again, haven't you?
A word of advise for any umpire that wants to know the rules... DO NOT LISTEN TO THE TV GUYS!!!! Very few of them know or understand the rules.

This is why when i watch a game i generally turn the volume off.... Otherwise I get enraged at the general lack of understanding the basic rules of baseball that these casters have, i just want to go out, but some rule books and send them to these guys.